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Tillie King is a local gender queer femme bootblack. They describes themself as someone with mental illness. Their perspective on intimate violence both consensual and non consensual is nuanced and interesting. I discuss the intersections of service, bdsm, and trauma with them. We make it accessible for new folks by discussing the differences between top or bottom roles and dom or sub roles. We also explain terms like feral, flagging, and mommy. We also talk about public displays of service and vulnerability. I hope you enjoy listening to our discussion as much as I enjoyed having it.